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PostSubject: Capital Punishment   Mon Feb 16, 2009 3:22 pm

What are your opinions on capital punishment?
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PostSubject: Re: Capital Punishment   Mon Feb 16, 2009 8:14 pm

I really have no opinion due to the fact that I probably would get flamed if I said yes. Capital Punishment really is a blessing, as most people say life is hell enough. Wink
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PostSubject: Re: Capital Punishment   Tue Feb 17, 2009 11:50 am

iSlut, I make the heated debates here, okay? Wink

It depends on the crime whether or not there should be capital punishment, obviously, and it should not only be the choice of the judge whether a criminal is actually executed. The victim should have a say in it, if they are able to. Also, I'd like to see the return of some Gaelic law, where all offences were civil rather than criminal and the victim and their family had a lot of influence and had the right to be paid compensation from the criminal and his family. They could also appeal to their local tacksman, or MP, or even the government to change the sentence of a criminal.
Now, for crimes such as murder, the victim's family have more of a say, and in crimes such as rape then the victim has more of a say. It is an awkward system, but it has been done before with great success.
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PostSubject: Re: Capital Punishment   Tue Feb 17, 2009 11:51 am

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PostSubject: Re: Capital Punishment   Tue Feb 17, 2009 11:53 am

If you don't agree, then make an argument, dammit! Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Capital Punishment   Tue Feb 17, 2009 11:54 am

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I agree, but I think the criminal's family should have a say because there may be young people and he might have a pregnant wife or something
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PostSubject: Re: Capital Punishment   Fri Feb 20, 2009 5:57 am

I completely agree with capital punishment. I honestly think it should be used more. If you are willing to break the law you should be willing to pay the price. If there are stiffer penalties I think people will think twice before they do something wrong.
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PostSubject: Re: Capital Punishment   Fri Feb 20, 2009 6:27 am

Fanatics won't. Traffickers won't. Terrorists won't. Those are the people that actually deserve capital punishment, as they are the ones that always understand what they did and will more often than not show no remorse or have no intention to get back into society after they are sent to prison. If you execute criminals who still might be useful for society, you have wasted money and resources.
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PostSubject: Re: Capital Punishment   Fri Feb 20, 2009 7:07 am

I don't think that executing fanatics is a better idea than executing murderers. Murderers have little political support, and we don't want fanatics to gain their precious martyrdom which is probably the most powerful tool at their disposal. And I don't think traffickers wouldn't want to get back into society, or at least not all of them, as when you bring one down everyone knows who they are and their connections with the other criminals they rely upon are severed. Executing them is worth it, however, if only because they're traffickers.

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I agree, but I think the criminal's family should have a say because there may be young people and he might have a pregnant wife or something

Ever heard of the nine clans system? To get around the pregnant wife thing, just knock off one Wink
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PostSubject: Re: Capital Punishment   Fri Feb 20, 2009 7:21 am

Knock off a pregnant wife? Or a clan?

The latter is a bit of a brutal idea (the nine clans system was when the family of an offender was also executed), and it does not avoid the problem of an innocent family member's emotions. And the child might be a valuable contribution to society, as might the wife for that matter.
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PostSubject: Re: Capital Punishment   Fri Feb 20, 2009 7:30 am

I think that the threat of a family member being executed is the only real deterrent to some criminals. It will make most fanatics think twice.
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PostSubject: Re: Capital Punishment   Fri Feb 20, 2009 7:38 am

What about our friend, Fearchar MacSaighdear Beag? His father is in the British Army, yet he has actually demanded civil disobedience and even vandalism against the soldiers on Benbecula! He would not give a damn if someone took it further, and killed a soldier. He'd probably be the one to do it!
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PostSubject: Re: Capital Punishment   Fri Feb 20, 2009 7:47 am

Fearchar is an exception. Other fanatics think that he is far more fanatical than they are, which is not surprising when you remember that he has changed his entire character and personality to be more compatible with his idealogy. Also, the fact that his father is in the British Army is not something that is required to be a fanatic, is it?


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PostSubject: Re: Capital Punishment   Fri Feb 20, 2009 7:55 am

No, but fanatics will be able to convince themselves that people who disagree with them do not count as people and that people who do agree with them but do not join them will accept their punishment. The best example is Islamic terrorists, who have been quoted as saying that Muslims killed by them will go to Paradise.
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PostSubject: Re: Capital Punishment   Fri Feb 20, 2009 8:03 am

True. But Fearchar is an exception. Other fanatics may not be so willing to let family members be executed, and if they do then people who would have joined will not, and their power would be decreased. And no fanatic wants to see their influence fall, unless they are truly insane.
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PostSubject: Re: Capital Punishment   Fri Feb 20, 2009 6:23 pm

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True. But Fearchar is an exception. Other fanatics may not be so willing to let family members be executed, and if they do then people who would have joined will not, and their power would be decreased. And no fanatic wants to see their influence fall, unless they are truly insane.

So we can count the Laugh of the Insane Bitches in the "truly insane" section, right?
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PostSubject: Re: Capital Punishment   Sat Feb 21, 2009 1:20 am

Nope. Fanatics aren't insane, they're usually quite logical people. The leaders especially.
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